@Davem1228 Yeah, those older Grand Marquis were awesome for stucks. When I was about 14, a college dude rented a house across the street from us. Only had on street parking. He drove a mid or late 80s Grand Marquis. In the winter he got stuck a lot. From my bedroom window I had a perfect place to watch him struggle to get out. He put on a great show with a lot of revving and spinning. Great memories.